(Murray)
Well, I I do have a question How many people were voting for Deep Blue?
And how many people were voting for Kasparov? Ahhumanity has hope - still, I suppose
(Jian)
How many people are like actually disappointed that the human lost
No no, disappointed I mean Duh! No, Because like I just don't get it, you know? I mean,
you know? What's the fucking big deal, you know? It's a machine, right? I don't know
I made the point in Albany the other day which apparently lost on all the Albanians
(Murray)
I didn't get it either
[laughter]
(Dave)
That's not all that was lost on the Albanians
(Jian)
There still behind the times
(Dave)
There's a lot of foreign aid going on there
(Jian)
So, uh
(Murray)
Your point was if there's a fire, Deep Blue wouldn't run out of the room
(Jian)
Exactly!
(Mike)
Couldn't run out of the room
(Jian)
That's exactly my point If an attractive person walks into the room, a person that would
be attractive to Deep Blue, it can't do anything about it That's my point
Kasparov can approach the person
(Murray)
The attractive person
(Jian)
No! Here's my point My point is a calculator That's my point Right?
(Murray)
No, let's get back the fire
(Jian)
No, hang on No, no, the calcforget the fire, because apparently it's, you know,
I'm talking on a different level
(Murray)
I - Clearly!
(Jian)
Here's the thing Here's the thing A calculator, right, a common everyday calculator
(Murray)
I'm with you
(Jian)
A calculator will, you know, itlet's say, let's play the adding game, right? Who can
add faster a calculator or a woman or man? A calculator can, right? So what's the big deal?
We know that there are instruments we know that there are are machines
we know that there are computers, etcetera
(Murray)
Right
(Jian)
that can do things that It's just because the the thing won at chess, right?
I don't understand what the big deal is
(Murray)
Your point is if you light a match near your calculator, it's not going to scurry away
It's all relative
(Jian)
No, my point isMy point is if there's a calculator My point is oh alright, okay,
I'll bring it back to the fire for you, because I know you're obsessed
If there's a fire in my living room, where me and my calculator are sitting, I can escape the fire
(Dave)
Yeah, but
(Jian)
But my calculator can't
(Murray)
Is there a logic course here that one of us can enroll in?
(Jian)
Well, I think, I think they know what I'm talking about
I'm talking about the fact that the machine is programmed to only do one thing
It can't do anything else The fire was just one example Pick anything, anything
(Mike)
Locusts
(Murray)
A flood How about a flood? Can he escape a flood?
(Dave)
Buddy boy
(Jian, laughing)
Kasparov can
(Mike)
A plague of frogs
[laughter]
(Jian)
No, say there's an, say there's an earthquake Right
(Murray)
Now, there's a good one
(Jian)
There's an earthquake doen the middle of the room, the chess room
Kasparov can get up and move Deep Blue can't
(Murray)
It falls into the chasm
(Jian)
That's my point
(Murray)
Right
(Dave)
But if they built Deep Blue in a door frame then there's no room for Kasparov to stand
to fight the earthquake Then they're doubly screwed
(Jian)
Seeseethey'd have to program Deep Blue to escape the fire That's my thing
(Murray)
But they can do that in a couple of years
(Mike)
You know we were talking about we were talking about disaster movies
This would be the perfect disaster movie Just have an endless succession
of these scenes where Deep Blue is just sitting there
"It's the locusts" or whatever and Kasparov is just running his little
piggy legs out of the room "I'm free again, you fucker"
(Jian, fading)
Here's theI just think